The Gathering asked CZ to help us clarify our message. What we received was far more than that. The brand book CZ created for us has become our playbook and a key part of our plan for the future. — Fred Smith, President, The Gathering


Brand Search, Brand Power
October 20th, 2010 by dave

In the wide world of the web, how do you ensure that when a consumer hops on a search engine they find you first?

Bruce Philp, branding guru to ING Direct and co-author of The Orange Code says that the answer is differentiation. Here in the third of three interviews, Philp talks about how the Internet has changed brand management–and relinquished control to the consumer.

Is the notion of differentiation irrelevant in a “Google-search” world?

Bruce Philp: Trout and Ries would have been hailed as geniuses if they’d described the concept of positioning about twenty years later than they did. Search is the reason why.

Positioning stipulates that a brand be recognizable as one of a pool of comparable brands, and that this pool is defined by a particular kind of user.

Can you give an example?

We don’t think about Levis as competing with all forms of lower extremity coverage, or even with all kinds of pants. They compete with other blue jeans, and we consider what makes them different in that context.

That generates more powerful differentiation, because it forces relevance. It becomes not just a matter of being different, but to whom and against what set of expectations.

How do you win at a search?

To win at search, a brand absolutely must think first about the tribe it’s selling to (to borrow Godin’s word) and their particular expectations and definition of themselves. That discipline directs effective search strategies, but it also directs focused branding.

It seems impossible to manage how people perceive your brand. Is that true?

I contend that it’s impossible to manage a brand anymore. Brands are no longer taught in a one-way, didactic context like they were in the age of advertising. Instead, they are observed across the full spectrum of their behavior.

In effect, this means that everything a brand does adds to its meaning. That’s because there are so many channels open–including the Internet–and because the social consensus that advertising is the ‘official’ voice of a brand is broken.

What happens if you try to strictly manage your brand?

A brand becomes a totalitarian state with a massive bureaucracy focused on control. It moves slowly because every single tactic is a decision. It’s an unsustainable approach for any brand that has to do business with consumers in a competitive context, when disruption is coming at it faster and faster.

When Google can tell me not only what people have said about the brand in the last days, weeks and months, but what they’re saying right now, it’s hard to imagine that the brand as a fascist state can stand.

What’s the alternative?

Manage a brand from principle. This is the constitutional model I proposed in The Orange Code. Instead of creating a book of rules, we create a declaration of principles. We hire for it, we reward it, we tell the world about it so that we’re held to account. Over time, the organization begins to organically behave according to those principles. They become its culture.

Thus, in a world where everything an organization does accretes to the brand, that entire organization will very naturally get it right most of the time.

Let Us Bore and Ignore You on Your Campus Visit
May 17th, 2010 by dave

It is that time again: college visit season.

This spring my daughter, who is a junior, and I made it to five colleges for overnight campus visits.

A campus visit is no small thing. It involves time off school (and work for mom and dad), travel, and the expense of accommodations. You don’t do them on a whim. And you certainly don’t visit schools that your child is only mildly interested in.

By the time a prospective student visits the campus, that student is a “hot” prospect.

Schools foot a big bill to get them there—purchasing names for search mailings, sending admissions staff to college fairs, conducting email marketing and advertising campaigns, and designing glossy view books. Add to that the expense of the visit weekend itself – more mailings, tours, free meals and tee shirts and Nalgene bottles, and the herculean efforts of admissions staff, administrators, professors, and student ambassadors to make it all happen.

Why leave any element of the visit to chance?

Since my son was searching for his ideal college fit two years ago, I have been a proponent of overnight visits, thinking the best way to get a feel for a campus culture is to experience the campus. But not every school allows overnight visits.

Now I may know why.

Twice now my daughter has been picked up by her student host, brought back to the dorm, and told, “I have to go to the library to study for a big exam tomorrow. You can go and do the stuff they’ve got planned for prospects. Here’s my cell phone number – call me when you want to get back in the room.”

Huh?

You are leaving your hottest prospect to fend for herself for hours on end during a visit that could seal—or break—the deal?

At one school I learned that the student hosts aren’t compensated for their efforts, they aren’t trained, and they don’t even volunteer to be hosts. The admissions office sends them an email telling them they’ll be having a prospective student stay with them.

A prospective student is a potential paying customer – more than $120,000 for four years. A campus host is the closer.

Would you entrust the best leads in your sales pipeline to someone who isn’t ready, willing, and eager to engage in the sales process?

Would you allow your $120,000 prospect to feel lonely, bored, and annoyed during the most critical moments of the sales process?

By Bernice Mirrilees
Account Executive
CZ Marketing

Differentiation Debunked
April 22nd, 2010 by dave
“The marketplace is a wind tunnel, and the wind wants everything to be the same.” 

That simple statement by Bruce Philp, branding guru to ING Direct and co-author of The Orange Code, is what makes identifying and landing new prospects so difficult. But being different from your competitors isn’t all that it appears to be.

In the second of three interviews with CZ, Philp debunks the myths of differentiation:

Brand & Strategy: What are the myths of differentiation?

Bruce Philp: I think there is just one dangerous myth: differentiation is rational. That’s fatal thinking.

How so?

There are two reasons–and the first is practical. There is almost no innovation that can be sustainably proprietary anymore. Performance differences are either so slight as to be irrelevant as a basis for choice, or they are impossible to own for long in a world where fewer people make things than sell them.

You can be Apple, and live what is surely the hell of having to beat yourself every time you go to market, or you can be P&G and make a full-time job out of engineering performance claims year after year. Those are successful businesses, there is no doubt, and it would be foolish to argue that it’s impossible to differentiate with innovation.

But, for most companies, innovation is expensive. And it’s often pointless, and very easily emulated by competitors who, maybe even with pride, see themselves as fast-follow marketers bent on commodifying their categories.

And the second reason why it’s fatal to believe differentiation is rational?

It’s more complicated. I think that consumers, regardless of what they may say in focus groups, don’t want the burden of comparison shopping for everything on the basis of rational performance. It’s a lot of work, and it puts too much responsibility on them. They want a proxy for that.

A proxy for what?

Consumers want a reasonable excuse to make a choice that is right for them and not feel vulnerable as a result. Very frequently, this is the job of a brand. People look at what they think a brand stands for, what sense they have of its past conduct in this regard, and the authenticating coherence of its presence in the marketplace. Consumers ask, “Do the values motivating this company align with mine, as they relate to the product I’m about to buy?”

And if the answer is yes?

Then the choice begins there, and not on a spec sheet. It’s not very different than the way we would pick an auto mechanic. I can’t judge whether the guy who’s going to work on my old sports car knows what he’s doing, but I can intuit his love of cars, I can see that his workshop is clean, and that he seems to take pride in his work. I can be reassured by the way he looks me in the eye and firmly shakes my hand.

So differentiation is instinctual.

Yes. The door to trust is opened emotionally and instinctually. Only after that is it about performance.

I think this exposes differentiation for the art it truly is. The best work I’ve seen done in this part of the branding process has always started not with what a product can do, but with who made it and why. Almost unfailingly, that leads you to the basis for sustainable differentiation. This type of differentiation is virtually immune to what competitors might do, or how circumstances might force your hand tactically in the future.

Show me a category where this isn’t true, and I’ll show you a commodity business–now or imminently.

Advertising – A Staged Event?
February 22nd, 2010 by dave
“The genie is out of the bottle,” says Bruce Philp branding guru to ING Direct and co-author of The Orange Code. “Advertising is not branding; it’s just a thing a brand does.” And mostly it’s just showmanship—and the dazzle isn’t enough to cause consumers to become loyal to your brand. 

The big question is: How does advertising fit into your marketing mix? Here, in the first of a series of interviews, Philp digs into the answer:

Brand & Strategy: What do you mean by “disingenuous” advertising?

Bruce Philp: Consumers know that you have chosen to don a costume and mount the stage to try to affect some sort of cognitive event. Advertising is, by its very nature, a contrivance. It’s not our brand’s voice, and everybody knows it.

So how should an organization integrate advertising into its plan?

Advertising has to work authentically within this consensual understanding and respect it. Marketers and advertising people both need to let go of the idea that a purchase decision is an event, and to think of it instead as the end of a process. Then remember what advertising is actually good for in marketing strategy terms.

And what is that?

With so many other ways to influence the consumer’s decision making process, advertising could hardly be said to sell anything–at least not very cost effectively (Snuggies aside). But it’s very good at beginning the dialogue that might lead to a sale (what advertising people rather dryly call “awareness”). Advertising can knock on the door, suggest an emotional promise relevant enough that the consumer might open it, and then be respectful and interesting enough that they’ll leave it open for the next opportunity to influence them.

I think that advertising should be purposed specifically with that in mind.

Any caveats about advertising?

We need to both expect more from advertising, and less: More in the sense that it can and should do better than just amuse people, and less in the sense that it shouldn’t presume to be able to go from zero to closing the sale in 30 seconds (Snuggies, again, aside).

If I were going to knock on your door to sell you a vacuum cleaner, I wouldn’t put on a puppet show in the hope that you’ll like me so much you’ll buy my Electrolux. Nor would I open by throwing the machine at you and screaming that your floors are filthy.

Advertising is a powerful and important tool for marketing. What’s changed in the last few years is that advertising is now a more specialized tool. Keep that in mind, and its inherently disingenuous nature will never be a problem.

Treat Social Media like a Toolset
July 10th, 2009 by dave

The American Red Cross had a big problem. The blogosphere was peppered with negative comments about the organization. So the American Red Cross decided to listen to the conversation taking place on the web.

They soon learned there was a gap between how they positioned themselves and how their stakeholders’ described their experience of the organization. Through daily monitoring of blogs and other Web 2.0 tools, the Red Cross changed the way they engage their advocates and recruit volunteers.

According to Geoff Livingston, author of Now is Gone: A Primer on New Media for Executives and Entrepreneurs, this is what today’s customers and donors expect: to be listened to and understood.

Here Livingston offers his advice for making new media marketing programs work for your organization:

Brand & Strategy: Does social media increase lead generation?

Geoff Livingston: It really depends on the program. If you don’t integrate calls to action and natural ways for people to engage further, then your effort is for naught; social media is just a hot shiny object.

Your strategy should treat social media like a toolset, with different ways of communicating. Do your homework. By exploring this site, you can research how organizations have used social media successfully.

Can social media help a non-profit organization increase the number of new donors?

Again, if there’s no integration into your plan, then it won’t! If you do integrate, it will. It all gets back to strategy. Are you talking to donors to accomplish something, or are you just Tweeting? Check out Beth Kanter’s blog for more insights.

How do you convince management to engage in conversations with customer-communities without controlling the conversation?

Show them a blog search with all of the conversations about their company. Or even better, point them to the conversations about their competition. But really, at this stage in the game, if they are still not going forward with social media, it may be time to consider a more innovative organization.

How should “social media releases” be fundamentally different than traditional press releases?

They should be more of a story board for bloggers, providing them multimedia tools to create their own story. Rather than a positioning document, it should provide facts and paths for others to figure out the position, so they can tell it their way.

How do you reach out to bloggers, podcasters, and individuals with high-traffic social network profiles?

You get to know them through conversation over time. You definitely don’t pitch them out of the gates. It’s Relationships 101, really. Treat people like you want to be treated.

How should organizations integrate social media on their own web site?

First, they need to get to know their online community and listen for a while. Then once you understand what your stakeholders actually do online–what they talk about–build your strategy. It should flow naturally.

Gutsy Branding
April 3rd, 2009 by dave
It’s a bank that claims to not be a bank. 

And it doesn’t siphon off its customers’ money with hidden fees and service charges. Instead, ING DIRECT promises to help you save money—at a great interest rate.

In an industry in which “bank” has become a new four-letter word because of the sector’s general disregard for its customers, ING DIRECT has become a stand-out—even likeable—brand.

In an interview with CZ President Dave Goetz, Bruce Philp, principle of Brand Engineering and chief brand architect of ING Direct, and co-author of The Orange Code, identifies what your brand must do to trump the competition:

Brand & Strategy: You wrote, “… don’t dominate the category, subvert it.” How do you do that? 

Bruce Philp: People tend to use the word subversive when they really mean “iconoclastic,” or even just “unconventional.” My definition of subversive is much more orthodox.

Like it or not, when you position a brand, you have to face the brands against which consumers will compare it. In our case, we were going to be compared to the status quo, which would never be a level playing field for our low-cost business model. If the status quo doesn’t support your business concept, then don’t dodge the comparison—undermine it.

Reframe it and cast doubt on it.

Don’t try to fool people into thinking you’re the “best” something. Be the only alternative to a flawed something.

How did that work with ING DIRECT?

We said the last two things you’d ever expect a bank to say: “We’re not a bank,” and “Save your money.” And we said them with such confidence that consumers couldn’t help but challenge their own assumptions about both.

That’s subversive positioning.

You talk about the dangers of boredom when messaging to your audience. What are some signals that it’s time to rethink your advertising strategy?

I think it’s important not to lose sight of what advertising really is. Too many people in our business tend to unconsciously equate it to branding. But of course they aren’t the same thing, and probably haven’t been since, say, the 1970s. Advertising isn’t a brand, it’s a brand asking a consumer to do something.

When we think about boredom or wear-out, we have to think of it in terms of how we’re asking them—not what, and certainly not in what character.

Do you believe that consumers own your brand?

I don’t, even if they seem to say so in focus groups. I think brands exist by the consumer’s grace, but consumers don’t want to own brands any more than, say, they want to govern themselves by plebiscite. They want to be heard, but they don’t want brands to delegate leadership to them.

Left to their own devices, consumers can figure out what a product needs to do, but they’re not going to inspire themselves.

If you leave branding to consumers, you’ll wind up with low margin, commodity businesses. Great brands are like lighthouses, an illuminating beacon that consumers find in the darkness.

How do brands become this “lighthouse”?

“Gut” is really important. By “gut” I don’t mean an ability to predict how people will react to something. I mean the conviction to pursue your agenda as a brand and trust that, if it’s in the best interest of enough consumers, the marketplace will reward you.

It’s guts more than it is a gut instinct.

Apple is a poster child for this notion. Virtually nothing they do is entrepreneurial. Nor is it the product of permission marketing. Nearly all of what they do is the product of a fierce, singular, take-it-or-leave-it vision. I know that not every business can function like that, but it’s amazing how many of the ones we admire the most do.

What are other traits of this brand gutsiness, especially in a down economy?

The brands that seem to be acting like those lighthouses share the following qualities:

  • They have not abandoned their purpose. By not dropping their principles like hot potatoes at the first sign of pressure, they have proven they’re authentic at the moment when doing so would have the greatest impact.
  • They have reached out to their customers and tried to turn them into a community.
  • They have not exploited the anxiety of the times.
  • They have concentrated on value.
  • They have listened hard to what people are really feeling and put a special effort into being genuinely empathetic.

What is your best positioning advice for senior leaders in universities and other third-sector organizations?

Dare to have a purpose.

In my work with such organizations in the past, I’ve very often seen a stultifying kind of commodity mentality. It’s a product of well-meaning people who believe that they’re betraying their callings if they focus on one constituency or one mission to the exclusion of all others.

The exception to this reluctance is the charitable organization that exists to fight a disease, for example. It’s no coincidence that these are some of the most strongly branded NGOs. They have a singular cause.

By contrast, organizations like industry associations and universities have a pathological fear of taking a stand. They don’t want to leave, as we put it in The Orange Code, “money on the table.” And it’s tragic to see how often they fail, or at least never seem to get anywhere, as a result.

What about those willing to take a stand?

Make a mental list of the most prestigious and superbly branded post-secondary institutions in America. Is there even one brand on that list that isn’t famous for just one or two defining vocations? I bet not.

What makes that a bit mystifying is that when a school decides to promote true excellence in one or two areas and succeeds at it, the entire school becomes more prestigious. Excellence is a reflection of the brand, not the curriculum. Just about any resume is better with Harvard on it—even if it has nothing to do with medicine, law or business.

The ZAG Mantra
September 23rd, 2008 by dave
The only thing that keeps a zigzag from being a straight line is the “zag”…the departure from the stasis. 

“When everybody zigs, zag,” says Marty Neumeier, president of Neutron LLC, a San Francisco based firm specializing in brand collaboration and author of ZAG.

Neumeier spoke with CZ about why organizations need both compelling and different ideas to be heard and seen in today’s noisy, cluttered marketplace.

Brand & Strategy: How do you define differentiation?

Marty Neumeier: I call it zag. When everybody else zigs, you should zag. Zag should be your mantra. You can’t be a leader by following another leader.
What makes differentiation so critical today?

Because of so many customer choices. Customers have control. Customers now have to eliminate choices because there is so much market clutter.

You argue that customers control the brand. How?

A brand isn’t what you say it is (as the brand owner); it’s what the customer says it is. That’s a new idea. Businesses think they are in control of their brand and that they are managing their brand…that it’s their property.

I think it’s their responsibility. But the owners of the brand really are the customers. They build the brand inside their heads and their hearts with whatever materials you give them.

How do you build a brand you’re not in control of?

You don’t stop at the strategy level. You keep zagging all the way through to the customer experience. It’s not just differentiation; it’s also execution and innovation. Start by asking a series of questions: Who are you? What do you do? Why does it matter?

In the beginning, most leadership teams answer those three questions simply and in a compelling way. However, they soon can’t yield simple answers. You need to get answers to those questions, and at the end of that process you’ll have what I call a trueline…the one true thing you can say about your brand that makes it both different and compelling to a tribe of customers.

Uh, what’s a tribe of customers?

We’ve had a hundred years of mass production that has fractured communities. People long for community. Making decisions within a community simplifies things. It’s a quick way to sort through your choices.

For instance, if you need to buy a car, you think, I need to buy a car. All my friends are buying Jaguars, so I have to have a Jaguar. Boom! Done! That’s what you get in your tribe…Jaguars, not Cadillacs.

Your choice links you to your community so you get respect from it. People can belong to more than one tribe so you have overlapping tribes. Thinking in terms of tribes is a better way of looking at things than is “How many people can we sell to?”

This is a scary proposition for most companies: How do you manage something that is in someone’s mind?

Can traditional marketing research identify tribal thinking?

Not yet. The emotional part is too complex for most formulas. However, while not quantifiable, there are patterns that signal whether you’re on the right track. So, pattern recognition becomes more important.

Can you create a clan for your brand?

It’s like my mother told me: “If you want to be a leader, find a parade that has no leader and get in front of it.”

Starbucks’ Simple Truths
July 18th, 2008 by dave
It’s a simple experience that drives the droves back to Starbucks.

We all have our signature drinks—double tall vanilla skinny latte, easy on the foam.

It’s replicated day after day. Baristas even concoct our daily quenchers as we walk through the doors.

In Tribal Knowledge, author and former Starbucks marketer John Moore attributes Starbucks’ success to three basic truths:

  • Building a business, not creating a brand;
  • delivering remarkable customer experiences; and,
  • creating a workplace that fuels its employees’ passion.

Moore calls these truths “tribal knowledge,” and recently spoke with B&S about how to integrate them into your business strategy:

Brand & Strategy: How do you convince an organization—especially one with a small budget—to redirect money from advertising/recruiting to improving the customer experience?

John Moore: You need to be willing to focus on the quality of customer connections and not the quantity. Nowadays, most people are looking for a direct conversation with the companies with whom they do business. I suggest businesses find their happiest customers and work to develop stronger relationships with them.

If you work on developing meaningful connections with them, in turn they will evangelize your business to their family and friends.

To make this ideal real, imagine the kind of surprise and delight you would generate if your top executives each phoned five customers per week. And if you’re scared to make those phone calls because you’re not sure what you might hear—you especially need to make those calls!

Is “word of mouth” really a marketing strategy?

Word-of-Mouth happens whether you’re aware of it or not. And if you’re not thinking about what your customers and prospects are saying about you, you should be. Remember, word-of-mouth happens online, too. People go right to the Internet to research everything from a purchase decision to a job opportunity to potential college choices.

If you want to spark positive word-of-mouth, you must earn opinions from people. Even seemingly small details earn opinions—good and bad—in the minds of your customers. In Starbucks case, just call your drink sizes different names. Some people like it, some don’t. Either way, it earns opinions from people and that results in word-of-mouth.

How do you get your employees on board?

I advise companies to think less about branding strategies and more about “being” strategies. Develop a business testimony about who you are, what you do, and why you deserve to exist.

Every organization must have a mission. And it shouldn’t be one of those gobbledy-gook corporate-speak platitudes. It must be memorable, motivational, and actionable. Every member of your organization should be able to articulate what you do and why. Purpose and passion are what attract people—both customers and employees.

How do you increase high-touch interaction with your customers, especially if you have thousands of prospective customers with limited opportunities for face-to-face interaction?

High-touch treats customers as relationships, not transactions. The bigger your organization becomes, the smaller you must act in order to develop and maintain those relationships.

Social media, like blogs, actually helps small organizations appear bigger, and helps large organizations act smaller. Having a blog will force a company to have a conversation with its customers. You can learn a lot from interacting with and listening to your customers—both their positive and negative feedback. But if you’re not confident about who you are and what you do, don’t do social media.

Why is it so important that every employee sees their direct connection to the customer?

David Packard of Hewlett-Packard said, “Marketing is too important to be left to the marketing department.” The truth is marketing is happening every time your employees interact with your customers. A happy employee will, in turn, make customers happy.

Your business has two audiences: your customers and your employees. How you communicate with each indicates how much you value them. Employees believe in a company in which they know what’s going on and feel they have a say.

In the end, a business really has just three goals: to make money, to make employees happy, and, to make customers happy. If you are able to do those three things, your business and its brand will grow.

New Marketing that Works
March 3rd, 2008 by dave

You’d call it absurd: a meatball sundae. Who’d ever combine the two?

Yet marketers do it all the time. They rashly garnish their meatballs—the traditional marketing basics their business is founded on—with fancy and tantalizing New Marketing tactics, such as social media.

CZ president Dave Goetz interviewed marketing guru Seth Godin about “New Marketing” and how organizations should think about and implement it for success.

B&S: How do I convince senior management to invest in New Marketing now for a payoff down the road?

Seth Godin: Well, it’s not easy. They got hired by someone who wanted them to do what they used to do, not to do something new. I’m not so sanguine that most of these organizations will figure out what to do in time. They surely missed the last two revolutions online. That’s why I wrote Meatball Sundae.

There are leaders who feel the transition you describe but also feel paralyzed about where to start. What is the intelligent starting point, aside from throwing lots of money at it?

Throwing money isn’t going to do it, not a chance. What will work is setting up something “across the street.” Get some great people, leave them alone, and challenge them to put you out of business by playing by the new rules. That’ll work.

Any examples of nonprofits that “re-launched” their organization into this new world of New Marketing?

The magic word is “re-launched.” Roomtoread.org and kiva.org and acumenfund.org didn’t re-launch—they launched. It’s the same way that Google isn’t called randomhouse.com and Wikipedia isn’t called britannica.com. I’m not so sure people have the guts to re-launch. I hope they do.

New Marketing is about building permission assets—direct to your community. How do you start building a permission asset today?

I think it’s about making a promise and keeping it. You measure every single day how many people WANT to hear from you. Not put up with it, but look forward to it. Complain when you don’t show up. If you measure that, and innovate around it, you’ll find it.

Social media allows you to engage your community in a real conversation. What are some of the things that kill authentic online conversation?

Social media isn’t about you, it’s about me. The minute you make it about you, I leave.

Which of your trends drives all the others?

The power of the consumer. To ignore you. To talk about you. To interact with you.

Deep Conversations
February 24th, 2008 by dave

If your market has ever ignored a product, a concept, or a message you thought was genius, then you know the pain of figuring out what your consumer really wants. B&S recently interviewed John Winsor, author of Beyond the Brand, who says the place to begin is a deep conversation with your customer.

B&S: You suggest that organizations must innovate to thrive. That’s hard for institutions with a long history.

John Winsor: Innovation is about having deep conversations with your consumers to find out if the product you’re delivering is what they really want.

Take Harvard, for example. Recently, they re-evaluated their financial aid program, because they realized that its college costs were driving away low-income and middle-class students. Though largely viewed as an elitist institution, they have increased the number of low-income students by 33 percent. This move is causing other universities to rethink their financial aid models. There’s cultural pressure to change. And it’s scaring a lot of people.

I’m always surprised that more universities don’t take the perspective of “Let’s do something unique!” Not enough universities go out and really listen to their consumers—students and parents—to reinvent what the university should be … or could be.

What kind of leadership do you need to innovate?

There’s a new president, Richard Celeste, at Colorado College. The trustees elected him not for his university experience, but for his life experience and leadership skills. He was the two-term governor of Ohio and the ambassador to India. He brings to the university an eclectic, interesting point of view as well as great leadership skills.

From big consumer companies to universities to non-profits, the prototypical manager/CEO—a guy with an MBA—usually gets hired. But these people have a trained way of thinking about organizational growth and management, which gets in the way of any kind of creative thinking or creative solutions.

One marketing strategy for innovation has been to identify and recruit “Influencers” to carry the ideas into the market. How do you view the power of Influencers?

In the February 2008 edition of Fast Company, Duncan Watson authored an article entitled “Is the Tipping Point Toast?”

In it, Watson refutes the idea that Influencers are largely responsible for the success of a product or trend. Of course, we all want to pin down Influencers, because it seems easier to reach only a small group of people—and not the entire market. But, it doesn’t wholly work, because you have to know how an Influencer actually influences.

So if not solely Influencers, what else drives good ideas into the market?

I think culture does. Watson uses an analogy of a forest fire to explain his point: There are thousands a year, but only a few become threats; in those rare occasions, the environment is ripe.

Or think of it like this: You can send somebody with a tanker full of gas into a forest and blow it up—that person driving that truck has a lot of power to influence. Or you can send somebody into that same forest with a single match, and if the conditions are right, it, too, will start a huge fire.

Influence can come from anywhere, but the cultural conditions determine what will spread. You have to understand your culture.

That sounds abstract and hard to control.

For a lot of organizations it is really hard. It feels like you’re throwing everything to the wind and saying, “Well, influence is really random.” But if you continue having real conversations with your consumers, you can predict intuitively where things are going. To understand the bigger cultural issues, you need to ask: What’s really happening out there? How are things really changing? Then you have to connect the dots to get the full picture. To do that, you’ve got to get out of your office and interact with your customers.

How do social media enable deep conversations?

Social media gets you inside the conversation; you’re not observing from the outside.

You can sit outside the door of a restaurant and analyze the quality of the food, service, and ambiance, or you can sit down and experience it. I think blogging is the same thing. You’ve got to jump in the stream. You’ve got to be a participant. You’ve got to be a part of the conversation—and people will find a way to connect to you and have a conversation. From there you’ll be able to identify key voices and cultural trends.